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On July 27, two things happened within hours of each other: Moonshot shipped Kimi K3's 2.8-trillion-parameter weights to Hugging Face just inside its 'by July 27' deadline (1,314 points on Hacker News), and Dario Amodei personally published 'Our position on open-weights models,' opening with a denial: Anthropic has never advocated a ban. This piece verifies what actually shipped, reads the benchmark footnotes, and lays out why 665 HN comments largely refused to take yes for an answer.